Given that you were speaking in the context of my remarks about Chandler, your comments were clearly a warning about him and a warning that his teaching was like a slow growing cancer. The great thing about the Village Church is that they recognised that they had not handled it well and apologised. If I were like that I would have to discount the Church at Pentecost! Where is the blessed self-forgetfulness? But you came on to my blog and posted something which is typical of the new legalists and endorsed a book which attacks gospel preachers such as Keller, Piper and the Proc Trust. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. He teaches a completely restored Israel shall inherit physical ownership of the land of Canaan on the earth. Someone feels free to go on the internet post serious accusations and then refuse to substantiate them. [36] Speaking about evolutionary theory, he writes that Christians "ought to expose such lies for what they are and oppose them vigorously." "[34] Regarding eternal security, he states, "It should never be presented merely as a matter of being once saved, always savedwith no regard for what you believe or do. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. Please dont feel sad that someone disagrees with you. Opinion Mark Wingfield. Our statement: pic.twitter.com/Rin5W7eA8x, Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) August 31, 2021. But anyone who writes on my blog and brings such serious accusations is going to have to provide evidence, and you will be challenged. 2) Its also not advisable as someone who professes to be a Christian and follow Christ to swear. And they aint all wrong. Sadly, however, there are also times when you use it to bully, abuse and browbeat. Stephen Furtick I just listened (lots of fast-forwarding) to a talk he gave at the New Spring church titled Sun Stand Still (which I think relates to one of his books). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. That is grotesque manipulation and a parody of the Gospel. So I was pleased to see the topic addressed here, particularly as there is another story breaking about Mr Furtick in North Carolina even as I write this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbfoO6hMSLc. Matt Chandler is an excellent example of how the gospel should be preached I cant comment on his lifestyle because I dont know it do you? Paragraph. Thats hypocrisy, and no, that doesnt constitute name calling. It is also grossly unfair (and dishonest) for you to misrepresent my position as making some pastors untouchable. Just a couple of verses from Ezekiel (which I am currently reading), the context being God restoring his people: In fact it was so bad most people assumed it was just mockers cutting and pasting to make it look ridiculous yet it turns out that this was Elevation Churches own video and it was liked by Furtick! And what is your position, from Scripture, on the subject? So I hoped and prayed that this would not become another crash and burn mega church story. I Gotta Reply This Is So Pathetic, First Of All As A Leader In Christ Steven Furtrick Is A Good Pastor And If You Really Heard His Message ,He Is A Man Of God And He Only Speaks The Truth You That Are Workers Of Iniquity Be Sure That Youre Sins Will Find You Out Second Of All How In The Hell You Gonna Sit Here And Judge A Man Of God ..I Believe God Called This Man To Build His ( God) House And Get The population Ready For Whats About To ComeAnd Its Far More Then Noah And A Flood.If There Were Many Pastors Like Steven Furtrick In This World There Wouldnt Be So Much Hate And Crime And Killing Drugs Etc News People Why Dont You Start Digging In The People That Are Really committing crimes Stop Digging In Something You Know Nothing About Cause If You Really Knew How God Works . "[7][8] MacArthur followed in his father's footsteps to enroll at the fundamentalist Bob Jones College from 1957 to 1959. http://religionnews.com/2016/05/11/why-pastor-steven-furtick-skirts-scandalous-questions/. "[43] Moore responded to this stance by stating on her Twitter account, "I did not surrender to a calling of man when I was 18 years old. And I wasnt using any of the debating society tricks of tu quoque and ad hominem in anything that I said. Yea not Steve but the ones who bash or become busy bodies against him. As a southern Christian (in North Carolina), Im truly thankful you posted one of Alistair Beggs videos to show the contrast between Truth presented with integrity and intellegence, and the slick mass market Charlotte speed preaching thats become hip with mega church crowds. The trouble is that because they have the money, the media and the power, they are able to have an influence far beyond their spiritual authority and gifts. Find a Church . And now I have to go and read his recommended book I hope its not as bad as the reviews suggest! For you to say that I did makes you guilty of the thing you wrongly accuse me of and it is quite reprehensible. The digressive discussion of church trappings in some ways diminishes the toxic nature of this actual ministry content its danger isnt in size or wealth or me focus, it is in the false gospel it promotes he is not qualified to preach. Chandler, a Reformed evangelical pastor, spoke as a guest speaker at Elevation last Friday, the third night of the Code Orange Revival. Stay informed with the latest from CBN News delivered to your inbox. But again, whilst it is not my style, I dont see why it cant be done well, reverently and to the glory of God. So far there has been no evidence given for assertion. I kind of dreaded this type of response. You can follow him on Twitter @timothynerozzi and can email him at timothy.nerozzi@fox.com, Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. Either way the theory that a pastor should be poor is ignorant. MacArthur, 83, was preaching Sunday service earlier this week when he. In 2019, at the Truth Matters Conference, during another word association questionnaire, MacArthur was given the prompt "Beth Moore". It is sometimes quite difficult to know how to answer you because of the way in which you misrepresent what is being said. 3) There is no point 3) other than it is a demonstration of your setting up a straw man in the hope you will have something to argue against. Doubtless it was intended as a joke but I dont think taking a salary of millions more than is necessary to live, work and provide for ones family, is a joke especially when there are hungry children, and many hungry for the Word, who do not receive it because of lack of money. http://thewartburgwatch.com/?s=Matt+chandler&x=0&y=0 (Note the attempted injection of humour!). "Just so you know, Pastor John had a bug this week and preached our first hour but asked if he might be able to take a break for the second hour. MacArthur responded, "Go home." If not why do you feel in a position to judge? For me there is no doubt that some of Scotlands independent churches and ministries, need to be investigated re their finances..question is who does it? Im not sure though why I should apologise for my Amazon remarks? It all depends how you measure success! Here is Kate Shellnut: Last year, Hohn Cho concluded Grace Community Church had made a mistake. I live maybe two hours from the Village and have visited twice. (2Tim. In 1960, after a year off, he was accepted to the Free Methodist Churchs Los Angeles Pacific College, where in his senior year he observed two games of football, going on field once for one play (see 1962 yearbook statistics). Period. Its mainly a forlorn appeal but can we say to the mega churches please stop it! My point was that its not only out and out heretics, such as McKenna, who are a danger to the church. MacArthur, 83, was preaching Sunday service earlier this week when he reportedly said he felt ill. But in this instance let me assure you I am not mocking. Im not sure that things work in quite the same way in the US. "Many of you are praying for Pastor Johns health due to his absence from the pulpit during the second service. Join us on Sundays for a full day of teaching, preaching, music, and fellowship. I replied tongue in cheek and its unfortunate my smiley emo didnt indicate that. If you stop and think about what you have written you will I hope grasp what is wrong with it. Pastor / Teacher. A decade later, he announced he had retracted this view via an article from Grace to You. John MacArthur is wrong about so much more than keeping women in abusive marriages. More here: https://mrayton.wordpress.com/tag/john-macarthur/, Thanks very helpfulalthough I think that the money and the me focus are a key part of the false teaching. It does say that if you are not careful many with money err from the faith and it also says the LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil, NOT MONEY ITSELF. [31][32][33], MacArthur believes "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved" (Romans 10:9). Conclusion: And now I wait. The incident referred to was a very serious matter and Christian publications in th USA documented the churchs mishandling of it, which was why I had urged caution. I have reread the comments by G Whiteand my own responses. (You can read the follow up five years later! I know of Alistair Begg from his Hamilton Baptist days but not much else. I dont agree that its always wrong to mock (otherwise Elijah, Paul and Jesus were wrong), and indeed sometimes mockery has its place. When you are ready argue about what is being said here, not what is not being said. Join Transformation church Sunday service at 11AM with Michael Todd, Live Stream (April-24-2022). We welcome another new contributor, Edward Benitez, as he biblically critiques a sermon given by Steven Furtick. 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