Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. hitType: 'event', eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. ga('ads.send', { }); window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} Our hearts on fire . i seriously didnt mean to sound defensive?? Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. That doesnt make it okay and it doesnt mean it cant be just as harmful, but considering they are nearly always the victims of such colorist comments, it is somewhat different to when they come from somebody else who is unaffected by them. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. That crosses every sort of line. Feb 22, 2023. eventAction: 'render' ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol Read more about it here. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. hitType: 'event', For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. We will be taking time to understand more about our international fans to ensure this never happens again. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. }); when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. Feels bad yo. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). But this often means the backlash is swift and severe anytime she puts out new content. This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. },false) It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. Thank you very much for the information!! Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. Threads: 138. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. Thank you~). Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. It also means I respond to criticism poorly. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. I think people need to realize that Asia is still inside a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is appropriate regarding race and cultures. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. The sun will always shine for us. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). Yes I should have included more context. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. Thanks for the reply! I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. 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