We who served America do not deserve this treatment. Mike. tell everyone that was their to go & get a blood test to check for agent orange 1st comes diabetes then prostate cancer thats what a dr told me yesterday. at the time i wasnt concerned, though, some of the guys working as fos, who were planning on a military career, were trying to get cibs. Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. Greensburg, Indiana, U.S. Garwood was transferred to North Vietnam in 1969, and according to reports, he was freed in 1973 along with the other American prisoners of war as part of the Paris Peace Accords. They quickly filed paperwork with the Department of Veterans Affairs, or VA, for disability payments. How many Vietnam War vets are left? Be safe and well Welcome Home Hope to have it out this year if I get the bucks together. What order should I watch Flowers in the Attic series? Had to fight the VA for years , Diabetes , neropathony and heart attack 14 years ago. During that year, 1,928 soldiers died in the Vietnam War. The figures reported here (and the same text is widely seen) are all correct with one major exception. Patsy T. Mink, (U.S. House of Rep-Hawaii) get honored with a burial in Punchbowl. See for yourself in 2000 there were 2.7 million Vietnam Veterans alive: http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf Nice to be reminded of our true niche in historythank God, not the Hollywood one! My buddy Jim was stationed with MAG-11. Cheers. (fact check note by Mike Brewer. (Reuters Health) - According to a new study, mortality rates among Vietnam Conflict veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that were higher than usual imply that battle trauma may continue be damaging veterans' health even decades after the war. Thank you. Return to country Jun 1969-Apr 1970 I Field Forces Vietnam. Ischemic heart problems. have served in-country was: 9,492,958. FAQ: What Are My Benefits As A 100 Disabled Veteran? We met at the replacement battlalion hearing our names at roll call, couldnt believe we were meeting again to Looking for people who served in the 134th assault helicopter co. from 1971 to 1972. They were not necessarily looking for a parade, but they were certainly looking for basic human support and help in readjusting to civilian life after this really brutal war.. In my military career, I personaly wrote CIB support letters for over 20 non-11B soldiers whom I knew had spent more than 180 days in a forward deployed posture and were under combat conditions, 6 receiving purple hearts none received the CIB. As for VA disability, if someone was in combat or experienced documented stressors before or after Vietnam, AND, they are assessed in a VA claim related medical exam, AND they can get someone who was in their unit to verify the incidents, they may be successful in their claim for PTSD or injuries received in Nam. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. If not mustard gas, then agent orange, the the Gulf syndrome. Working on a story for my veterans paper at my website and found your blog on this subject. You must be at least 17 years old (17-year-old applicants require parental consent). Can you send flowers anonymously through 1800flowers? Base, then to NY. Semper Fi. 2023 A&E Television Networks, LLC. Sen Jim Webb when he was Secretary of the Navy wrote an excellent article how the media, and in some cases the goverment gave birth to the myth that all Nam vets were in some way impaired or Rambos waiting to happen. 2015if any.. Burkett is the author of Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its History, which was published in 1998 and received widespread acclaim. i had no idea i could apply for a cib, but would like to. While I was in Vietnam I saw men, who did brave and heroic deeds they deserve Part of the reason was economic. and were sometimes in more combat during their tour than the actual grunts they supported they still werent awarded the CIB. Are Vietnam vets respected? This is hard to believe, Though rarely found in Americans, the parasites infect an estimated 25 million people worldwide, mostly in Asia. CIB air medalan dall that. The excess mortality, especially through motor vehicle accidents, suicide, homicide, and accidental poisonings, occurred mainly in the first 5 years after discharge from active duty and involved. Abit more images would be nice. I just wonder how many of us boots on decks guys are going to be dying off before the VA and congress realize that we are due for our agent orange exposure also. I am an in country vet and 59 years old, your article wasvery informative. david dolby died 63 yrs old 5 tours in nam. There are currently 83,204 unaccounted for U.S.personnel, and the Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office at the Pentagon reports that this number includes 73,547 service members from World War II, 7,883 service members from the Korean War, 126 service members from the Cold War, 1,642 service members from the Vietnam War, and six service members from Iraq and other recent conflicts, including three Defense Department personnel. Queleparece is a website that writes about many topics of interest to you, a blog that shares knowledge and insights useful to everyone in many fields. Mike Baughman holds a 1971 photo of himself in his U.S. Army uniform at his home in Danville, California on Aug. 2, 2016. Because they will be OLD and it their turn. "But until further research, a recommendation cannot be made either way.". So my main man at the DAV said were not going to appeal. Lincoln, Nebraska is where I call home. Any numbers on this would be greatly appreciated. He immediately scheduled further tests, discovering he had two cysts on his bile duct, which had the potential to develop into the cancer, known as cholangiocarcinoma. Locality: Detroit, in the state of Michigan. my email is, micpatrickbrewer@gmail.com., mike: fact is, my factory closed last summer, so i went and applied for some va disabilty, to help until i get fully retired. 1995 (census figures). And as more and more wartime atrocities came to light, there was a national implication of guilt and shame placed on Vietnam veterans as participants in and avatars of a brutal, unsuccessful war. He lived for three days after that incident. V.F.W. MarDivPhoto on Oct 9, 2009 refers to the American War Museum website, and mike_brewer on Oct 12, 2009 refers to the Vietnam War Museum, both as the source of the number 850,000 living Vietnam veterans. Related: More Than 100 Sickened in Arizona Cryptosporidium Parasite Outbreak, "In the best of all worlds, if you came down with cholangiocarcinoma, just like Agent Orange, you automatically were in," he said, referring to benefits granted to veterans exposed to the toxic defoliant sprayed in Vietnam. Why are Vietnam War veterans so crazy? No more mr. Nice Guy. I am unable to find the museums referred to, though I find a National Vietnam War Museum and a Veterans Memorial Museum. With the internet and sites like this, Im hoping to hear from someone I served with I was never a prisner but could relate to some of the tings the men talked about.I can also relate to the tinngs you talk about,, Any time Im around a crowd (large or small) I like to be where I can keep up w/everything going on around meUse to have panic attacks really bad if I had to be in publicWith help from VA mental health and medication Im now a lot better off.. Of course we have to consider how long it will take them to contract and automate the system. Might any of our readers speculate about why this may be? Ill never ware a baseball cap again ever! Look up the webstite. Bill Ray/Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images, The Vietnam War claimed the lives of more than 58,000 American service members and wounded more than 150,000. Vallo Hi Mike. C.I.B. Same goes with the SF flash. Most Vietnam Veterans are in their 60s and the average lifespan for a male in USA is 74. It got too overwhelming for me, there were so MANY. Just realized that this is the day Ho Chi Minh died! Roughly 300-thousand veterans have died from Agent Orange exposure -- that's almost five times as many as the 58-thousand who died in combat. "I didn't think it would be me.". This article highlights the eligibility criteria and important information for filing a claim for benefits. FACT CHECK: We strive for accuracy and fairness. Poison, who cares? Weve used them up we need young ones. I too am a Life VVA member and Past President. Mike why is gods name would all these people claim to have went to that septic tank they call vietnam? Median age is 68 years. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? So, we wonder eh? Jun. Likely 15 to 20 percent of the total who served after the buildup in 1965 were born before the end of World War II. Vietnam was a lost war, and it was the first major lost war abroad in American history, Lembcke says. As of 2015 approximately 16,000 17-year-olds were being enlisted annually. As a cohort, Vietnam veterans were met with none of the fanfare and received none of the benefits bestowed upon World War IIs greatest generation.. 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam. Often, just being in the TAOR, tactical area of responsibility will qualify you for a CIB? Meanwhile, all my friends were crying that they didnt even have money for transportation.cool news However the main reason for me using an AION kinah guide was to get the millions I needed to buy the best PvP gear at the brokers. I don't know about you guys, but it kind of gives me the chills. Last name: How do I unlock Wattpad stories without paying? I was spat on in Chicago in Lincoln Park in 1969. 1969 most of the unit were draftees, with a few old hands returning for a In response to several comments, Ive never heard of anyone other than a grunt in Vietnam being eligible for the CIB. Age: 77. Hi Mike, On June 7, 1969, Bullock was killed by small arms fire while on night watch at An Hoa combat base. Hello John: while i was with e-troop, i noticed after any contacts or firefights these e-troop guys were receiving cibs. I have never had or felt the same camaradrie I experienced serving two tours I hope you all know that if you were in country and have diabetes you are basically automatically qualified for soem degree of compensation their is a presumptive connection as there is with various cancers. OK I found the source and and researching this more. Btln. I have a few observations, but I will let you all go first. And I believe the qualifier thereis that many were claiming to be combatvets when in reality the ratio of logistics to grunts was about 9:1 therefore the large number suggested was true Vietnam Veterans, just not combat vets. Just a note of trivia. The AO stuff is just so hard to tolerate as it still invades so many of us. GOD BLESS ALL VETS. Mike 520-360-6933. society. Gerry Wiggins, who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969, has already lost friends to the disease. Im a Life member of VVA, DAV and AMVETs; spend almost two years in Vet Nam as Medic with 145th Avn Btn AND 11th ARVN Airborne Brigade. Hopefully since most of us are inot our 60s now we have past the heart attacks and cancers that seem to get you in the 50s and maybe the rate will now slow. He led his men on operations that lasted 30 days or more in some of Vietnams most inhospitable conditions, without shaving, bathing or changing clothing. I just got my crystal ball back from the shop. Call me next week sometime, and I will help you with the stressor stuff. Although the war was considered cold, that didnt stop those crazy DDR Volkspolizei Border Guards from taking more than a few potshots at us when we ventured too close to their border fence to retreve one of our over-flightdrones. MarDivPhoto on Oct 9, 2009 refers to the American War Museum website, and mike_brewer on Oct 12, 2009 refers to the Vietnam War Museum, both as the source of the number 850,000 living Vietnam veterans. I may be able to help you with your claim. Still have those dreams that creep in and keeps me awake for the rest of the night Lost contact with him years ago, wish him the best. In my mind they were throwing out a SWAG. Of the 2.6 million, between 1-1.6 million (40-60%) either fought in combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy attack. She was right. One last ramble. i forgot to mention in my above comment,that i was in the first infantry division,(the big red one),charlie company,2nd battalion,16th infantry regiment,rangers,in vietnam. Nice Web. The program is for federal, state and local communities, Veterans' organizations and other nongovernmental organizations. Except for one, we were all medics. Had my good times, as well as bad times, after leaving the US Army, April 10, 1970 I always look at that date as my second Birthday These are indeed some very sobering statistics. Scientific Wild Ass Guess. Yes some do fabricate stuff. 61% of those killed were younger than twenty one and 11,465 of those killed were younger than twenty years of age. Another who is 85,from Colorado and was on the USS Rhona in Tunisia in the early stages of WWll who filed his claim at age 80 for PTSD. If true, 390 VN vets die a day. You must be a U.S. citizen or resident alien. i got sent to viet nam in the spring of 71 and came back in the spring of 72. my mos was 82c20, surveyor. Dan Bullock (December 21, 1953 June 7, 1969) was a United States Marine and the youngest U.S. serviceman killed in action during the Vietnam War, dying at the age of 15. DANang None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. During the Vietnam War, a total of 9,087,000 military people were on active service, with over 2,709,000 Americans serving in Vietnam. Before I married my loving wife, I told her of some of my experiences, but not all of them showed her all themedicine Strapped to a gurney in a retrofitted bus, Wowwk and other wounded servicemen felt excitement at being back on American soil. He was among those who got the call. They have since been removed and for now he's doing well. Age: 78. You dont have parades for soldiers coming home from a war they lost.. After reading your article, were lucky to have him. (Reuters Health) According to a new study, mortality rates among Vietnam Conflict veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that were higher than usual imply that battle trauma may continue be damaging veterans health even decades after the war. What is the average age of a Vietnam veteran today? Some, like Wowwk, say they had invectives hurled their way; others, like naval officer Ford Cole, remember being spit on. We returned home to an uncertain future with no skills needed in the civilian world, we would make our way the best we could in this educated man, besidesrocknroll there is Classical Music, Jazz and other favorites It was apparently based on an estimate that 800,000 Vietnam-era veterans had died by 2000. There is only ONE KIND OF VIET NAM VET,,ONE WHO WAS THERE. I appreciate the respect of thank you because that was something I never received when I came home. Did not know his name but I couldnt bring myself to walk by his A/O after this happened. I showed this to a non vet to see if I was not clear (PTSD) and he was shocked at the number of Nam Vets who were passing away. He graduated from Notre Dame prior to being commissioned, and after his service returned to law school to cash in his educational benefits. (Vietnam veterans are passing away at a pace that is about comparable to that of their dads who served in World War II.) Can you put dead flowers in food waste bin? The 173rd Infantry Brigade was activated in 1915 and served in World War II. Especially if you are happily married. Im a member of the Vietnam Veterans of American. Pu u Owaina in Hawaiian. Were going to demand an official review to a hearings officer. Millions served in Vietnam. Listed here are the four Vietnam veterans with the youngest ages. We spent more forward deployed time than the WW2 vets, we never lost a major battle, we were greeted with the most abuse and disdain from the country we had served than any previous generation of veteran, and we were the genesis of all war-fighting doctrine today. I have heard to many times of other shipmates getting ischemic heart disease or diabetes I for one had a heart attack and quadruple bypass surgery but no boots on the ground. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Reading Shineskis October news release, which promised a fast track response to those who suffered from ISD, I immediately re-filed with VA. A few days later VA issued a bulletin essentially saying, Whoa, the approvals would be delayed until sometime in summer 2010 because it had to be published with the Federal government.. But the specter of Vietnam still lingers, and some of that wars veterans view such acts with a wary glance. They all understand. For the family whose son is just coming back, you arent going to have a public welcoming home ceremony when someones son just down the road was just sent off to Vietnam., As the war ground on and became increasingly hopeless, the military personnel put through this kind of revolving door of service came to represent something many Americans would rather not accept: defeat. It can take decades for symptoms to appear. If you read the Taps in their mag there seems to be an alarming rate of NamVets dying in theirlate fifties and early sixties. didn't know who they were fighting and dying for. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? god bless america,and our veterans. have my Library and collection of movies, my garage and my dogs and cats. Twenty-one-year-old Steven A. Wowwk arrived as an infantryman in the Armys First Cavalry Division in Cam Ranh Bay, Vietnam in early January 1969 to fight in an escalating and increasingly unwinnable war. Any way you cut it, the saga of self- destruction was frequent and very, very sad. Both are unlikely to life to 70, and both have suffered life-threatening diseases already which they are lucky to have survived. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. God bless you guys for your sacrifice. Im going to put that review officer in my shoes as a 20 y/o medic. We flew to Okinawa, and during the flight on Flying Tiger airlines from Okinawa one of the four engines stopped, we had to make a emergency landing back at Okinawa. We are not dying off that fast. 390 deaths Considering the kind of information available about the death rate of WWII and Korean War Veterans, publicized information indicates that in the last 14 years Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. I took her to Punchbowl and then she understood. Recently, a local widow of a serviceman received a shock when. Yes indeed the TAPS Section of the Veteran, published by VVA, is a bit sobering. I used to be with the local VVA and did the Newsletter in 1987+ I added a column of all the OBITS of then dying off Vietnam Veterans from our area. At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015. As a mental health nurse in the 1970s who worked the suicide prevention and crisis unit for 4 years, I can tell you there were alot. I always say welcome home to a vietnam vet. 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, So long ago-time tames the memories and makes them Kind!!!! Mike. Mike. So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only the few will survive by 2025. We could not understand getting letters from school kids, says Langenus, also a veteran of Desert Storm. "None of them have even heard of it before. I left the Corps in 1970 and went to work as a Police Officer in a large southern city. A group of amputee Vietnam veterans talk together at a hospital in San Francisco, California, 1967. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. It is believed that less than 850,000 of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam are still living today; the age of the youngest American Vietnam veteran is around 60 years old. or the Central Highlands and operations in between. Any anecdotal evidence that has come my way over the years is not from books. The Obituaries in the Veteran Magazine published by Vietnam Veterans of America, a highly credible organization, have a long list of birthdays between 1946-50. It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 19.5 million in the year 2020 to 13.6 million in the year 2048. I came back from nam in January of 70.Got out September remember being called a baby killer,monster etc ,was not spit on ,but had I been would have given back a proper response.When I came back was wearing my medals and CIB etc. I went back to work (with Government Defense Contractor)where I worked before entering service and was laid off after 1 month.Went to VA rep who did nothing about it,but then sent me for a job as an exterminator.went off on him and asked was this supposed to be closest civilian related occupation. Check with your local VA claims agent. Subject: Fwd: ED SCHULTZNATIONAL TALK HOSTDISABLED VET DENIED JUSTICE! Best wishes, I just watched a VN movie about the Hanoi Hilton.. If it is any comfort, one of my VVA pals reminds me that VVA only has a total of about 45,000 members nation wide, so it represents and very small part of all who served. About 30 percent of Vietnam vets have had PTSD in their lifetime, the highest rate among veteran groups from all eras, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs' National Center for PTSD. Somethings Ill never do: They cannot deny your ISD. And instead of getting return peace fingers, I got the middle finger.. Lost a friend after a going away party when he took one last flight the day after the party. The 850,000 figure came from a 1997 article from a variety of sources., Another common myth is more Vietnam Veterans have committed suicide than were killed in combat not true. What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. Div. The odd thing, I was at Tripler Hospital today and learned something interesting. Thanks to our Editor, Mark Evans, I have some raison de etre. ive been asked a few times over the years if im a combat vet. "Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old." They may look appealing but can actually take up to 5 years to schedule a hearing. The following are some I too have found the Veterans War Museum to be a bit odd at times. We read this article at our last meeting thanks again. where did this nunber come from, the people I am dealing with look closely at source material and I would really like to use this. My name is Jason Gunn and I am a veteran of OIF with the First Armor Div. Even though I served 7 months on an A-Team, I wasnt eligible for the flash because I got my CIB BEFORE I was assigned to the group. Im always looking around at whats going on. Neither of us has since flown again. I never went to the VA, but Im gonna try, and they will probably fight me, but they want to give illegals health insurance. Magazine, the Public Information Office, and the HQ CP Forward Observer EM Club after that, I never saw Walker again. i just learned, they are going to give me 40% for a couple things. Seventeen year-old James Calvin Ward was one of them. RAa Regular Army, those that enlisted with some draftees, When I returned in Be careful of Appeals. I was in uniform for 26 years and served honorably and faithfully. That often precedes an Appeal. Found your article after reading so many obits lately where the guy was a Vietnam vet and wondering. sent back to the 4/18 artillery, the same unit I left in Germany. So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only the few will survive by Is there anyone who actually has documented evidence of the Viet Nam vet suicides? It is not BS. This was partly due to the logistics of the never-ending conflict. Do you have any statistics on how many of the so called BWN vets are coming down with AO related presumptive diseases. Jim is 100% PTSD, but stable and happily married with 2 children. But for the time being, we will just all hang together here and beat the odds. I may have some choice words to express as well. The aircraft ( helicopter ) went down experiencing mechanical problems. A fellow soldier in the 134th assault helicopter company with me shot and killed himself just down the hall from where I slept while I was sleeping. But for claims, I have found the DAV (I have to join) to be a real kick ass outfit. And approximately 164,000 Americans who served at sea in Vietnam waters are alive today. Brault In popular culture, the stereotype of the broken, homeless Vietnam vet began to take hold thanks to films like The Deer Hunter (1978), Coming Home (1978) and First Blood (1982). "We've been fighting this for 55 years," said Wright, who also served in the Connecticut National Guard from 1982-1999 and retired as a first sergeant. We were in the tents in the mud in 1966 /67 . Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veterans I was wondering about these statistics. Check out the VA web-site and your local Vet Center. I believe they may be using no. According to figures provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs of the United States, 530 Vietnam veterans pass away every single day. Mike, Punchbowl National Cemetery of the Pacific is called. i have been 100% dav. Using that same time frame the number of Blue Water Navy . During this Census count, a huge number of Americans falsely claimed to have I hope it will cause your readers to write the Secretary and emphasize their concern about the unfortunate treatment of our Vietnam Veterans. Discounting senior officers, there must be many Vietnam veteran who have died past the age of 70. I am rated 100% disabled and damn happy to be privileged and capable of pushing out this small Blog. wouldnt it be wild if we could have a gathering of ALL Vietnam Veterans in DC? You posted this on September 2nd. and told our stories we had a good laugh, just laughed our asses off went to the I was a Medic with the 93rd Evac. What amazes me however is that so many of my comrades who served in Vietnam and who suffer from many of the maladies associated with this war would serve again. All Rights Reserved. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? This is around 9.7 percent of the generation at the time. 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